Department of War PURSUE File
NASA-UAP-D2, Apollo 17 Transcript, 1972
Moon·1972
Editorial summary
# Editorial Summary: NASA-UAP-D2, Apollo 17 Transcript, 1972
During the Apollo 17 mission to the Moon in December 1972, astronauts Eugene Cernan, Harrison Schmitt, and Ronald Evans reported observing unidentified phenomena on three separate occasions over the course of their three-day journey. These observations were recorded in the official air-to-ground voice transcription and have been declassified as part of the U.S. Department of War PURSUE Release. The astronauts were trained observers operating sophisticated equipment in space, and their accounts represent direct witness testimony to phenomena they could not immediately identify.
On the first day of the mission, as the spacecraft maneuvered near the Moon, Command Module Pilot Ronald Evans reported observing "very bright particles or fragments" drifting and tumbling near the spacecraft. Lunar Module Pilot Harrison Schmitt described the sight as looking "like the Fourth of July," with large bright objects visible on his window. Evans characterized the fragments as "very jagged, angular" pieces that moved slowly. The astronauts speculated about potential sources for these observations. Evans suggested they might be ice chunks or paint fragments dislodging from the S-IVB rocket stage, though he explicitly characterized this assessment as "a wild guess." The phenomenon persisted for nine minutes, and Evans attempted to photograph the fragments at different camera settings. As the spacecraft's maneuver was completed, the fragment field became "essentially static, except for very slight tumbling within the fragments," with only occasional fragments moving at higher velocities.
The most extensive observations occurred on the second day over a three-hour period. Mission Commander Eugene Cernan reported difficulty sleeping and described observing "some sets of the streaks" and "peripheral horizon-type things" visible from his window. Most significantly, Cernan reported a very bright light that "flashed right between my eyes like a very bright headlight, like a train coming at you," which he characterized as "imposing" in intensity. Over the subsequent hours, Cernan observed several flashing, rotating phenomena that he assessed as corresponding to "something physical in the distance" rather than nearby particles or optical artifacts. He emphasized that "there is something out there" and requested that ground control attempt to locate the object using spacecraft gimbal angles and optical systems. The flashing object displayed a distinctive pattern with "two flashes" during each rotation, described as alternating between bright and dull flashes in "very rhythmic fashion." Cernan estimated the object's distance at approximately 10 to 12 Earth diameters away. Schmitt also observed similar phenomena during this period, though he attributed his sightings to the separated S-IVB rocket stage. Later, Cernan reported observing two additional distant flashing objects, which he assessed as possibly being Spacecraft/Lunar Module Adapter panels from the Saturn V rocket.
On the third day, during the final six-minute period highlighted in the transcription, Lunar Module Pilot Schmitt exclaimed that he had observed a flash on the lunar surface north of Grimaldi crater. He described it as a "bright little flash" and noted the position relative to the crater edge, reporting what appeared to be "a thin streak of light." Ground control requested that Schmitt mark the location on a map for documentation purposes.
Throughout all three observation periods, the astronauts attempted to identify the phenomena through reference to known spacecraft components and operational procedures. While some observations were tentatively attributed to separated rocket stages, debris, or equipment, the astronauts consistently reported phenomena that lay outside their initial expectations. The transcript reveals a systematic effort by both the crew and mission control to document and understand what the trained observers had witnessed, with particular attention paid to physical characteristics, duration, behavior patterns, and spatial relationships that the astronauts used to distinguish the phenomena from known spacecraft elements.
Editorial summary written by govweird from the declassified document text. The official government description follows below.
Government description
Apollo 17 was the ninth crewed U.S. mission to the Moon, and the sixth to land astronauts on the lunar surface. This document is an excerpt from the Apollo 17 Technical Air-to-Ground Voice Transcription, December 1972, highlighting three periods in which astronauts reported observing unidentified phenomenon: a nine minute period on the first day, a three hour period on the second day, and a six minute period on the third day. • Day 00, Hour 03, Minute 34, Second 10 through Day 00, Hour 03, Minute 42, Second 29: o Command Module Pilot (CMP), Ronald Evans, reported observing “very bright particles or fragments” drifting and “tumbling” near the spacecraft as it maneuvered. Lunar Module Pilot (LMP), Harrison “Jack” Schmitt, described the phenomenon as looking “like the Fourth of July.” The astronauts speculated that the phenomenon may be attributable to ice or paint fragments dislodging from a separated component of the spacecraft (S-IVB) but characterized that assessment as a “wild guess.” • Day 02, Hour 18, Minute 42, Second 34 through Day 02, Hour 21, Minute 07, Second 05: o Mission Commander, Eugene A. Cernan, reported difficulty sleeping and described having observed “some sets of the streaks.” He also described an intense light flashing between his eyes, describing its intensity as comparable to that of a train headlight and characterizing it as “imposing.” Over the next three hours, Cernan described observing several flashing, rotating phenomenon that he assessed as corresponding to physical objects in space rather than a purely optical phenomenon. LMP Schmitt also reported observing similar phenomenon, though he again assessed the source of his observation to be a separated rocket stage (S-IVB). At 02:20:55:22, Cernan reported observing two additional distant flashing objects, though he assessed them as Spacecraft/Lunar Module Adapter panels (SLA panel), another separated component of the Saturn V rocket. • Day 03, Hour 15, Minute 33, Second 25 through Day 03, Hour 15, Minute 39, Second 46: o At 03:15:38:09, LMP Schmitt exclaimed that he had observed a flash on the lunar surface north of Grimaldi (crater).
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Originating agency
National Aeronautics and Space Administration
Record type
Incident date
1972
Incident location
Moon
Release tranche
Release 01 (May 8, 2026)
Distribution
Cleared for public release